有人制作商务印书馆《朗文当代英语大辞典》（带文化注释）的mdx版吗？

woaini123 · 发表于 2015-10-8 12:10:01

就是基于longman dictionary of english language and culture的双解版本或者英语原版都可以，不要后来出的所谓新版（名字虽然也是朗文当代英语大辞典，但其实是基于朗文3）

非常喜欢这一版的释义，详实而不啰嗦，很多都带有详细的解说和文化注释，往往能说到“点子”上。不像一般的学习型词典，释义有时很啰嗦很绕，说不到点子上，而且用法归纳很繁琐，不利于归纳记忆。

举两个例子：

一、rather这个词，我查了各大学习型高阶词典，总感觉用法归纳非常零碎，虽然很多都有与fairly、pretty、somewhat的区别辨析，但似乎还是不清楚。于是我查了文化版，有惊喜的发现：

它的usage note是这样说的：
【fairly常用于表示既不好也不坏的一些性质。
但rather在程度上强于fairly，并且常用来表示某种不好的或不适合的性质。不过，英国人也可能把rather用于他们非常喜欢的东西。
rather的用法中，上面的义项1（在一定程度上、相当、颇）和5（当然，的确，用作答复语）在美国英语中比较罕见，对美国人来说，这两种词义为典型的英国英语的用法。义项1的情况，美国人喜欢用fairly、somewhat，或者在非正式的时候用pretty。义项5的情况下则用简单的“yes”来回答。】

看到这个说明，我马上就清楚的rather的惯用法了：1. rather通常用于英国英语，经常用来表示不好的性质。2.美式对应的是somewhat或fairly，口语用pretty。

再看看朗文4：rather，fairly，quite 和 pretty 都指某事在某种程度上是真实的，但不完全真实：
rather 有点正式，但可用于口语，尤其是在英国英语里。在美国英语中更常用 pretty。在美国英语和英国英语中 pretty 在口语中用得均比书面语中多。

你能看出rather通常用于英式英语吗？利于总结记忆吗？你知道美语应该用什么词吗？

二、看看文化大辞典中paperback和hardback这两个词的释义（注意，仅仅是释义，而不是文化注释）。Paperback: a book with a thin cardboard cover. Paperbacks are usually cheaper than books with hard covers, and many books are produced with hard covers first and only later in paperback form.

Hardback: a book with s strong stiff cover. Hardbacks are usually more expensive than paperbacks (books with thin cardboard covers)
再看看朗文4：paperback = a book with a stiff paper cover. hardback = a book that has a strong stiff cover. 要不是双解版给了“平装书”、“精装书”这样的译文，仅凭英文几乎看不明白这两个词有啥区别。

这部文化大辞典不仅文化注释是一大亮点（比如在 handkerchief 这么普通的词条下还介绍了英国老年人度假时喜欢把手帕打结戴在头上），它的词条释义里面也隐含了更多的说明和备注，真是十分贴心。

oversky · 发表于 2015-10-8 22:46:46

Michael Swan 的 Practical English Usage

490 rather: adverb of degree (rather good, etc)

1 meaning
Rather can be used as an adverb of degree. The meaning is similar to 'quite' or 'fairly', but more emphatic (see 199). This use of rather is less common in American English.
The film was rather good. Some people rather like being miserable.
It's rather later than I thought. I rather think we're going to lose.
Rather often suggests 'more than is usual', 'more than was expected', 'more than is wanted' and similar ideas.
How was the film? ~ Rather good - I was surprised.
She sings rather well - people often think she's a professional.
It's rather warm in here. Let's open a window.
2 word order with articles
Rather generally comes before articles, but can also come after a/an if there is an adjective.
That's rather the impression I wanted to give.
He's rather a fool.
Jane's had rather a good idea. (OR Jane's had a rather good idea.)

rather good, rather well 是用来表示好的性质。

Longman Common Error

DUBIOUS: The bed was rather comfortable.
GOOD: The bed was quite comfortable.
DUBIOUS: The weather is rather good today.
GOOD: The weather is quite good today.
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When rather means 'to a small extent', it is usually used with words that express negative qualities: 'The bed was rather uncomfortable.' 'The lesson was rather boring.' 'He's always been rather lazy.'
When rather is used with words that express positive qualities, it makes the quality stronger: 'These cakes are rather nice! Try one!'

这语感又有更细微的差异了。

woaini123 · 发表于 2015-10-9 09:55:52

oversky 发表于 2015-10-8 22:46
Michael Swan 的 Practical English Usage

这本词典也说了可以表示积极的东西啊。“不过，英国人也可能把rather用于他们非常喜欢的东西。”

guomian · 发表于 2015-10-31 20:56:47

非常期待啊~

ipda · 发表于 2015-12-11 16:22:45

同感。
很期待

michaellee1010 · 发表于 2019-5-3 23:23:59

muqia目前好像没有啊。。。

rwx33678 · 发表于 2020-2-18 23:43:45

同感，这本纸质版买了2本，商务版对应的原版是朗文当代2，朗文的最长初两版最好

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