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    发表于 2017-3-13 19:19:45 | 只看该作者 |只看大图 回帖奖励 |倒序浏览 |阅读模式
    A friend of mine called my attention to what he called a mistake in a biographical sketch of a literary man: the name of a person followed by “of whom more presently”. In fact, there is no mistake at all in the expression. “More presently” is elliptical for “more will be said presently”.
    一个朋友要我注意在一篇文人传略中他认为的一个错误:在人名后面接了“of whom more presently”。事实上这个表达方式并没有错。“more presently”是“more will be said presently”的省略形式。

    ——《葛传椝向学习英语者讲话》

    然而,无论 “more presently” 还是 “more will be said presently”,除了《葛传椝英语惯用法词典》,为何其他词典里都没有找到这一用法的解释?而且谷歌的结果也大多是 Google Books 摘录,有点奇怪。不知有没有别的词典、语法书、用法手册对这一表达有相关解释说明?
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    发表于 2017-3-16 22:43:55 | 只看该作者
    My brother-in-law, Holmes, being now at Philadelphia, advised my return to my business; and Keimer tempted me, with an offer of large wages by the year, to come and take the management of his printing-house, that he might better attend his stationer's shop. I had heard a bad character of him in London from his wife and her friends, and was not fond of having any more to do with him. I tri'd for farther employment as a merchant's clerk; but, not readily meeting with any, I clos'd again with Keimer. I found in his house these hands: Hugh Meredith, a Welsh Pensilvanian, thirty years of age, bred to country work; honest, sensible, had a great deal of solid observation, was something of a reader, but given to drink. Stephen Potts, a young countryman of full age, bred to the same, of uncommon natural parts, and great wit and humor, but a little idle. These he had agreed with at extream low wages per week, to be rais'd a shilling every three months, as they would deserve by improving in their business; and the expectation of these high wages, to come on hereafter, was what he had drawn them in with.

    Meredith was to work at press, Potts at book-binding, which he, by agreement, was to teach them, though he knew neither one nor t'other. John ----, a wild Irishman, brought up to no business, whose service, for four years, Keimer had purchased from the captain of a ship; he, too, was to be made a pressman. George Webb, an Oxford scholar, whose time for four years he had likewise bought, intending him for a compositor, of whom more presently; and David Harry, a country boy, whom he had taken apprentice.
    I soon perceiv'd that the intention of engaging me at wages so much higher than he had been us'd to give, was, to have these raw, cheap hands form'd thro' me; and, as soon as I had instructed them, then they being all articled to him, he should be able to do without me. I went on, however, very cheerfully, put his printing-house in order, which had been in great confusion, and brought his hands by degrees to mind their business and to do it better.

    It was an odd thing to find an Oxford scholar in the situation of a bought servant. He was not more than eighteen years of age, and gave me this account of himself; that he was born in Gloucester, educated at a grammar-school there, had been distinguish'd among the scholars for some apparent superiority in performing his part, when they exhibited plays; belong'd to the Witty Club there, and had written some pieces in prose and verse, which were printed in the Gloucester newspapers; thence he was sent to Oxford; where he continued about a year, but not well satisfi'd, wishing of all things to see London, and become a player.(from:http://www.24en.com/novel/biogra ... 2012-02-15/298.html

    sorry,我也没查到presently的这种用法,但查到一篇使用这个结构的文章。从文章中看,of whom more presently确实可做“后面不久会再次提到他”讲。相当于of whom more (wiil be said) presently/soon。

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    发表于 2017-3-23 23:04:37 | 只看该作者
    这里有一个这样的讨论,总之这种用法不常见,对于普通人不建议使用:
    https://forum.wordreference.com/ ... -presently.2202337/

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