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    发表于 2019-12-25 19:49:05 | 只看该作者 |只看大图 回帖奖励 |倒序浏览 |阅读模式
    今天又用单车(+双士)对士象全干翻了一个。[阴险] 士象全对单车,虽是必和棋,但也是小心为妙,不可草率。最好走固定的循环着法,最后单车方无奈作和,或者自然限招作和。守和要点是,士勿轻率上顶,象勿轻离底线,将勿轻上横二路。密切注意对方帅、车的位置、线路,根据对方车帅的位置调整己方士象的位置,不要走成己方没有他着可走,一走子就让对方在车瞄准士或象的同时,让另一个士或象被帅牵制住,或者双士、双象、将与士象失联而丢子。这样对方就吃不到任何士象而成和。




    我今天的这盘棋,车双士对士象全。走了几回合之后,我帅在宫顶占据中路、车塞对方左侧肋道象眼,双士位于底线。此时轮黑方走,黑方阵型为顺士象,左侧无士象,虽然阵型不是很好,但是趁红方帅未移至车路,先落个士,等对方帅五平四,再上个士,也没有问题。

    此时黑方随手走了士5进4,虽不合理,但也无碍。此时红方帅五平四,黑方士4进五,红方车四平二,黑方只要象5退7(或者士5退6)即可。红方若车二进一,黑方象3进5(或士4退5)。

    但是此时黑方想错了,以为无论左侧落士落象都会被吃掉,惊慌之下,走了将5平4,这是真正的漏着,因为红方下一着车二进一,如果黑方落士或落象垫将都会被吃掉。结果走了将4进1,因为此时将塞住了黑方右侧的象眼,因此右侧的底象就被吃掉了。士象全对单车,只要士象四子中失掉一个,就会全部失去。黑方丢掉一象后,其他一象双士也相继被吃而败北。

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     楼主| 发表于 2019-12-25 19:55:12 | 只看该作者
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    Today, I used a bicycle (+ double) to turn over the elephant. [sinister] the man like all to the bicycle, although is must draw chess, but also be careful, not hasty. It is better to go on a fixed cycle, and finally have no choice but to make up, or natural limit to make up. Keep and the point is, do not rashly top, as not light from the bottom line, will not light on the two sides. Pay close attention to the other side of the handsome, car position, line, according to the other side of the car handsome position to adjust their own fangsi xiang position, do not go into their own no other to walk, a walk son let the other side in the car aimed at shi or xiang at the same time, let another shi or xiang shuai pin, or double shi, double xiang, and shi xiang lost contact and lost son. In this way, the other party will not be able to eat any of the elephant and become a peace.
    My game of chess today, rook double man to man like all. After a few rounds, I am handsome in the palace top occupy the middle road, car plug the other side left costal road elephant eye, double in the bottom line. At this point, the other side's formation for shun shi xiang, left without shi xiang, although the formation is not very good, but while red shuai did not move to the car road, first off a shi, such as the other side shuai five even four, then on a shi, there is no problem. At this point, the black side with shi 5 into 4, although unreasonable, but also no harm. At this point, red shuai five four, black fang four into five, red che siping two, black as long as like 5 back 7(or shi 5 back 6) can be. If red advances two, black advances five. But at this time black thought wrong, thought that no matter the left will be eaten, panic, went will be 5 even 4, this is a real leak, because at this time the red car two into one, if black square will be eaten off or off the elephant pad. The result is going to be 4 to 1, because it's going to plug the eye on the right, so the bottom image on the right is going to be eaten. If you lose one of your four sons, you will lose them all. After losing one elephant, the other elephant was eaten and defeated.
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     楼主| 发表于 2019-12-25 19:56:22 | 只看该作者
    机译结果的反向机译结果:

    今天,我用一辆自行车(+ 2倍)把大象翻倒了。[阴险]男人喜欢一切为了自行车,虽然是要下棋,但也要小心,不要草率。最好是走一个固定的循环,最后别无选择只能弥补,或者自然地限制弥补。保持和重点是,不要鲁莽的顶部,作为不轻从底线,将不轻两边。密切关注英俊,另一边的车位置,线,根据汽车的另一边英俊的位置来调整自己的fangsi湘位置,不进入自己的没有其他走路,散步的儿子让另一边在车上旨在史或香同时,让另一个施或香帅销,施施或双、双香,和湘失去了联系,失去了儿子。这样,另一方就不能吃到大象的任何一部分,从而形成和平。
    我今天下的棋,车双人对人都一样。几轮后,我帅气的在宫顶占据了中间的道路,车堵在另一边的肋路象眼睛,双在底线。在这一点上,另一侧形成的顺香,没有香,虽然形成不是很好,但红帅没有动车路,首先史,如对方帅5甚至4,然后在史,没有问题。此时,黑方与石5成4,虽不合理,但也无危害。此时,红帅五成四,黑坊四成五,红彻四平二,黑只要喜欢五回七(或仕五回六)即可。红进二,黑进五。但这时小黑想错了,以为不管左还是右都会被吃掉,惊慌失措,走了就会是五五平四,这是一个真正的漏洞,因为这时小红车两进一出,如果小黑方会被吃掉还是象垫掉。结果是4比1,因为它会堵住右边的眼睛,所以右边的底部图像会被吃掉。如果你失去四个儿子中的一个,你就会失去他们。在失去一头大象后,另一头大象被吃掉并打败了。
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    发表于 2019-12-25 20:59:57 | 只看该作者
    虽然我知道楼主是在说象棋,可为什么看你原版中文也看得累?
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     楼主| 发表于 2019-12-25 23:59:23 | 只看该作者
    sabrina2111 发表于 2019-12-25 20:59
    虽然我知道楼主是在说象棋,可为什么看你原版中文也看得累?

    嗯,因为里面有一些象棋术语,看起来有点费劲。估计你不常下象棋,或者很少看棋书、棋评。
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     楼主| 发表于 2019-12-25 23:59:37 | 只看该作者
    sabrina2111 发表于 2019-12-25 20:59
    虽然我知道楼主是在说象棋,可为什么看你原版中文也看得累?

    嗯,因为里面有一些象棋术语,看起来有点费劲。估计你不常下象棋,或者很少看棋书、棋评。
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     楼主| 发表于 2019-12-26 00:12:41 | 只看该作者
    sabrina2111 发表于 2019-12-25 20:59
    虽然我知道楼主是在说象棋,可为什么看你原版中文也看得累?

    嗯,因为里面有一些象棋术语,看起来有点费劲。估计你不常下象棋,或者很少看棋书、棋评。
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    鸭呼嘿 发表于 2019-12-25 23:59
    嗯,因为里面有一些象棋术语,看起来有点费劲。估计你不常下象棋,或者很少看棋书、棋评。 ...

    小学的时候下过。从没看过棋书,下棋没套路,就懂点基本规则。

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    发表于 2019-12-26 14:25:32 | 只看该作者
    这种估计要很懂象棋的人, 把你的中文文章整合一下, 再意译才可以。
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     楼主| 发表于 2019-12-26 16:29:23 | 只看该作者
    Rachel1983 发表于 2019-12-26 14:25
    这种估计要很懂象棋的人, 把你的中文文章整合一下, 再意译才可以。

    难点在于那些象棋术语,包括象棋着法的表示法,例如士5退6怎么说。

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    发表于 2019-12-27 14:23:44 | 只看该作者
    这种建议你去找一下象棋的外语书籍, 先看专业术语怎么说, 然后结合英语普通语法,就很容易通了。

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    I had posted the Chinese to see if there should ever be someone who would feel interest and take pains to translate.  发表于 2019-12-28 09:09
    Sure. That is what I've been doing.  发表于 2019-12-28 08:47
    Sure.  发表于 2019-12-27 23:24
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     楼主| 发表于 2019-12-27 23:21:24 | 只看该作者
    本帖最后由 鸭呼嘿 于 2019-12-29 21:43 编辑

    Xiangqi endgame: single chariot vs full gaurd

    Today I defeated an opponent online in a Xiangqi ( Chinese chess) game in which the ending was, yet again, I had a single chariot (plus two excess advisors for today) versus their full guard ( two advisors and two elephants). Full guard versus single chariot, although an easy sure-draw endgame, should be attentively dealt with. The best defensive strategy to achieve a secure draw is to play a cycle of moves during which your opponent cannot capture any of your pieces, thus they will have to suggest peace in frustration, or the game will come to a mandatory draw according to the 60-rounds-without-capture rule.



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     楼主| 发表于 2019-12-28 12:03:37 | 只看该作者
    The crucial tactics to force the draw are paying close attention to the positions of your component's chariot and General, deploying your pieces accordingly so as to keep them in organic  connections and protecting each other, and to avoid your elephant or advisor is pinned by their General so that whichever piece you move,their chariot will capture the elephant or advisor without cost: Once any of your elephants and advisors is lost,so do all of them,and you lose the game. To keep off the disadvantageous position, you will not rashly move your advisor to a palace corner, nor elephant away from your base rank, nor your General to the centroid rank.
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     楼主| 发表于 2019-12-28 18:13:08 | 只看该作者
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     楼主| 发表于 2019-12-29 15:42:57 | 只看该作者
    本帖最后由 鸭呼嘿 于 2019-12-31 16:43 编辑

    推荐一个中国象棋英语网站  xqinenglish.com

    内容相当丰富,比世界象棋联合会官网的内容丰富多了(那里内容太少了)。是一个台湾同胞办的,宗旨是向海外推广象棋。此君英语写得很流畅、很地道,因此这个网站也是一个学英语的资源。

    下象棋,学英语,棋乐无穷,其乐无穷!



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    The closing stage of today's game began with my single chariot and a double advisor vs the opposit's full guard. After both components having continued to play a few moves, the endgame changed into this situation:


    My General(K) at the central file and cannon rank, namely (file)5(rank)3; chariot(R) at one of the opposite's elephant's eyes on their left side: 49; each advisor(A) at one of the lower palace corners: 41 and 61. The opposite's formation was the concordant advisor-elephant-deployment( /same direction full guard, known as 顺士象 in Chinese *), with no advisor or elephant on their left side. And it was the opposite's turn to move.


    (* 顺士象, with one advisor and one elephant of a compponent on the central file and the other ones on the base rank on the same side, in contrast to 花士象, reversed/crossed advisor-elephant-deployment/ opposite direction full guard,  which has one advisor and one elephant on the central file but the other advisor and elephant disposed on the base rank on the opposite sides. )


    Although the concordant advisor-eleohant-deployment, as well known, is not as effective as the crossed one to withstand the attack from the chariot. The opposite ( the BLACK opponent) was not factually facing the immediate risk of losing material at the time.


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    A5-6 (the advisor from f5 to f6), before the RED's General having moved to its right armpit file (namely file4), the RED will have no chance to capture any piece of the BLACK. If the RED moves K5=4 in the next round, the BLACK then moves A4+5, and every piece is safe now.
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     楼主| 发表于 2019-12-30 14:35:16 | 只看该作者
    Here the BLACK casually moved A5+4. Irrational thought, it did not cause any inescapable hazard. The RED then moved K5=4, the BLACK A4+5. The RED R(chariot)4=2。Here the right move for the BLACK was E(elephant)5-7, or A5-6. If the RED followed up with R2+1, the BLACK may move E3+5, or A4+5,and there was no risk, still.


    I think the BLACK had got muddled at that point, thinking that whether moving the elephant or advisor down to its base rank on the left side the RED'S chariot would cature it. Scared, it moved K5=4. And this was a real blunder, as its general now clogged the elephant's eye. The RED grabbed the chance and moved R2+1: check!


    Now the BLACK was bound to lose material: if it moved A5-6,its left advisor and and right elephant would be captured successively. And it then moved K4+1, and losed its right elephant. After that the RED'S other elephant and advisors were captured one after anoher. As a matter of cource, I, the RED, won.

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     楼主| 发表于 2019-12-30 14:47:30 | 只看该作者
    翻译完了,欢迎指正!
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    发表于 2019-12-30 19:56:46 | 只看该作者
    我仰视楼主!我连中文都看着费力。

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    过奖了,哈哈。中文看着有点难懂是因为里面有一些象棋术语。例如,士象全就是一方的两个士(仕)、两个象(相)一个都没有被吃掉。另外,棋书、棋....  发表于 2019-12-30 23:31
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     楼主| 发表于 2019-12-30 23:36:52 | 只看该作者
    sabrina2111 发表于 2019-12-30 19:56
    我仰视楼主!我连中文都看着费力。

    过奖了,哈哈。中文看着有点难懂是因为里面有一些象棋术语。例如,士象全就是一方的两个士(仕)、两个象(相)一个都没有被吃掉。另外,棋书、棋文常常釆用一种半文半白的语言风格,但是只要术语了解了,都是很好懂的。如果对下象棋感兴趣,可以先买一本《象棋入门》看看,大部分术语就都了解了。网上也有很多资料,包括棋书,可以参考。象棋易学难精,也正因此才特别有意思,哈哈。