to throw vegetables at sb/st 啥意思

mikeee · 发表于 2020-3-6 11:02:25

本帖最后由 mikeee 于 2020-3-6 11:04 编辑

Zizek takes aim at the post-structuralist, the postmodernist, the post-whateverist, the empty Foucauldian fad, the politically correct, the practicing non-believer, the all-too-comfortable victim, etc., etc., and then he throws lots of vegetables at their big silly phallic performance. Duck!

https://www.goodreads.com/review/show/151088615 的一句话。throws vegetables 在这里当什么解？大致查了一下，to throw vegetables at sb/st 好像也不是什么短语。呃…… 靠猜自然也大致知道是什么意思。我就是想找相对权威一点的解释，字典、网页什么的。

mxh3698 · 发表于 2020-3-6 19:52:01

Pelting unlucky victims with rotten produce is one of our oldest forms of expression, older even than tomato cultivation. Rotten tomatoes are often associated with Shakespeare's Globe Theater in Elizabethan London, but in actuality, tomatoes were still uncommon and weren't even mentioned in the first English cookbook until 1752, nearly 150 years later.

However, the practice of throwing produce predated the tomato entirely. The first reference came in A.D. 63 when Vespasianus Caesar Augustus was hit with turnips in the midst of a riot in Hadrumetum.

Rotten eggs were also a weapon of contempt used in religious and political protest. Documents dating back to the 18th century refer to people throwing rotten eggs at persecuted Methodists on the Isle of Man. The practice also made its way to the New World, as shown in a speech by Frederick Douglass who recalls bad eggs being lobbed to break up antislavery meetings. Food's use as a weapon was traditionally a product of availability and cost.

Find out when the first actor faced an overripe tomato on the next page.

链接：https://recipes.howstuffworks.co ... -throw-tomatoes.htm

mikeee · 发表于 2020-3-8 13:41:21

感谢。

或许也和 "throw tomatoes at a bad performer" 有关 https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHist ... et_the_whole_throw/

Throwing tomatoes dates from the first half of the 19th century in Italy. In 1838 a Roman poet named Guiseppe Belli joked at the end of a poem "God save us from the tomatoes!" (translation) I don't know of any other examples unfortunately, but this absolutely fits with crowd behavior at the time. Throwing things at performers (including nice things like love poems and flowers) was acceptable behavior at theater performances in Italy and some other places in Europe at the time.

Prior to start of the 19th century tomatoes had a very minor role in Italian culinary culture, they were primarily an ornamental garden plant consumed by a few people in a limited condiment fashion, mostly by the upper class, and influenced heavily by Spanish cuisine. So they were essentially too rare to throw. By the 1800s tomatoes had entered the middle and low classes as a food staple along with other vegetables. They were cheap as well, a report on the state of food access for the poor in Naples by Napoleon's government in the 1800s gives the price of tomatoes at 3 soldi for 2 pounds. Vegetables ranged in price from 2-8 soldi per 2 pounds, putting tomatoes on the cheap side. (A family size pizza in Napoli, for comparison, was 2 soldi, and also a key food of the poor.) They also go “squish” unlike say a cabbage, making them the stage bomb of choice.

From Pomodoro! A History of the Tomato in Italy, 2010.

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