这句中的accord用的对么？

弹钢琴 · 发表于 2022-6-14 17:42:22

But Mr Johnson’s opponents note that his support was weaker than that accorded Theresa May in a similar vote in 2018...

我怎么觉得应该是 ... than that accorded to Theresa May

言叶之庭 · 发表于 2022-6-15 09:57:27

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你一个不学无术的人总有提不完的问题。“有术”的人发现问题后自己解决问题，还用提？解决问题的流程都不会，只会提问题，不会自己想办法解决问题。人不能这么废，真这么废，直接扔垃圾桶。

abc163 · 发表于 2022-6-14 21:13:13

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sabrina2111 发表于 2022-6-14 20:27
这里应该是省略to了吧

是双宾语，accord这里是vtr, 原意应该是Conservative MPs accorded Theresa May support. 可参考

https://www.thefreedictionary.com/accord
https://www.macmillandictionary.com/dictionary/british/accord_2
accord someone/something something: Their achievement has not always been accorded the recognition it deserves.

qingqing123 · 发表于 2022-6-15 21:06:11

that accorded Theresa May和that accorded to Theresa May两种都是对的，就是约定俗成就这样用，不用加to ，wordreference上有和楼主一模一样的问题，我给你搬过来了

例句
Others, however, would vastly prefer permanent jobs. They have struggled to deal with the instability, the second-tier status often accorded contractors and other temporary workers and the usual lack of benefits.---taken from the NYT

提问
Dear all,
Should "accorded" be "accorded to"? Because I think of "accord" as "give".
She is accorded respect by her students.
Her students accord her respect.
Her students accord respect to her.
Respect is accorded to her by her students.
Could you tell me whether my understanding is correct? Thanks.

回答
This is a hard one, LQZ. I don't think that the sentence you've quoted is incorrect, but I don't think that your suggested revision would be wrong either. I would say that the answer has something to do with the fact that "accorded" forms part of a noun clause in the NYT's sentence.
"Respect is accorded to her by the students." - fine
"Respect is accorded her by the students." - somewhat unidiomatic
"She enjoys the respect accorded to her by the students." - fine
"She enjoys the respect accorded her by the students." - I find this acceptable
In other words, the bare participle of "accorded"--here used as an adjective--functions differently from the participle as part of a passive construction.

scju · 发表于 2022-6-15 11:08:30

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弹钢琴发表于 2022-6-15 09:34
确实是省略，但我居然都没体味出来

不是省略，是本来就没有。底下1和2的写法都可以，原句采用1的方式。

1.
(a) Conservative mps accorded Theresa May support.
↓
(b) The support was accorded Theresa May (by conservative mps).
↓
(c) ... than that (= support) (which was) accorded Theresa May in a similar vote in 2018

2.
(a) Conservative mps accorded support to Theresa May .
↓
(b) The support was accorded to Theresa May (by conservative mps).
↓
(c) ... than that (= support) (which was) accorded to Theresa May in a similar vote in 2018

sabrina2111 · 发表于 2022-6-14 20:27:40

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这里应该是省略to了吧

言叶之庭 · 发表于 2022-6-14 18:48:52

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弹钢琴总有问不完的问题，自己不会查词典，网上找资料？问来问去，别人的时间不宝贵？外语学习交流区第一页几乎都是他发的帖子。

sabrina2111 · 发表于 2022-6-14 18:02:44

应该是漏了to.相当于support accorded to Theresa May

弹钢琴 · 发表于 2022-6-14 18:24:53

sabrina2111 发表于 2022-6-14 18:02
应该是漏了to.相当于support accorded to Theresa May

但是朗读版中也没有读“to”

sabrina2111 · 发表于 2022-6-14 18:32:28

弹钢琴发表于 2022-6-14 18:24
但是朗读版中也没有读“to”

本来就弱读的。再加上前面的ed,这个音被吞了吧。

entropy · 发表于 2022-6-14 19:21:05

原文没毛病。可以搜到很多类似用例。

"Mr. Reagan's rating is one point higher than that accorded President Johnson at roughly the midpoint of the first year of his elected term in 1965."

来源：https://www.nytimes.com/1985/09/ ... -s-performance.html

弹钢琴 · 发表于 2022-6-14 19:58:19

entropy 发表于 2022-6-14 19:21
原文没毛病。可以搜到很多类似用例。

"Mr. Reagan's rating is one point higher than that accorded Pres ...

但是为什么可以这样写呢？

entropy · 发表于 2022-6-14 20:10:17

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弹钢琴发表于 2022-6-14 19:58
但是为什么可以这样写呢？

不清楚。之前理解错了。

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