关于圣经中播种者的教化故事，有一些没看懂

弹钢琴 · 发表于 2022-7-25 21:00:13

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关于这个故事，下面仅附上圣经 New International Version (NIV) 中 Matthew 13 中的篇章

Matthew 13

That same day Jesus went out of the house and sat by the lake. Such large crowds gathered around him that he got into a boat and sat in it, while all the people stood on the shore. Then he told them many things in parables, saying: “A farmer went out to sow his seed. As he was scattering the seed, some fell along the path, and the birds came and ate it up. Some fell on rocky places, where it did not have much soil. It sprang up quickly, because the soil was shallow. But when the sun came up, the plants were scorched, and they withered because they had no root. Other seed fell among thorns, which grew up and choked the plants. Still other seed fell on good soil, where it produced a crop—a hundred, sixty or thirty times what was sown. Whoever has ears, let them hear.”

The disciples came to him and asked, “Why do you speak to the people in parables?”

He replied, “Because the knowledge of the secrets of the kingdom of heaven has been given to you, but not to them. Whoever has will be given more, and they will have an abundance. Whoever does not have, even what they have will be taken from them. This is why I speak to them in parables:

      “Though seeing, they do not see;
         though hearing, they do not hear or understand.

In them is fulfilled the prophecy of Isaiah:

      “ ‘You will be ever hearing but never understanding;
            you will be ever seeing but never perceiving.
      For this people’s heart has become calloused;
            they hardly hear with their ears,
            and they have closed their eyes.
      Otherwise they might see with their eyes,
            hear with their ears,
            understand with their hearts
      and turn, and I would heal them.’

But blessed are your eyes because they see, and your ears because they hear. For truly I tell you, many prophets and righteous people longed to see what you see but did not see it, and to hear what you hear but did not hear it.

“Listen then to what the parable of the sower means: When anyone hears the message about the kingdom and does not understand it, the evil one comes and snatches away what was sown in their heart. This is the seed sown along the path. The seed falling on rocky ground refers to someone who hears the word and at once receives it with joy. But since they have no root, they last only a short time. When trouble or persecution comes because of the word, they quickly fall away. The seed falling among the thorns refers to someone who hears the word, but the worries of this life and the deceitfulness of wealth choke the word, making it unfruitful. But the seed falling on good soil refers to someone who hears the word and understands it. This is the one who produces a crop, yielding a hundred, sixty or thirty times what was sown.”

弹钢琴 · 发表于 2022-7-28 13:23:33

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entropy 发表于 2022-7-26 11:24
你既然懂，为啥又问个不停呢？

如果不是“提问”，只为“交流切磋”，那你应该与其他圣经爱好者（全世界 ...

终于拼凑出了一个满意的解读，基本阐述清楚了这部分圣经的内容

The Parable of the Sower (sometimes called the Parable of the Soils) is a parable of Jesus found in Matthew 13:1–23, Mark 4:1–20, Luke 8:4–15 and the extra-canonical Gospel of Thomas.

In Christianity, the term “Five Discourses of Matthew” refers to five specific discourses (the Sermon on the Mount, the Mission Discourse, the Parabolic Discourse, the Discourse on the Church, and the Discourse on End Times) by Jesus within the Gospel of Matthew. Each of the discourses has a shorter parallel in the Gospel of Mark or the Gospel of Luke.

The Parabolic Discourse, or the third discourse (1-53), provides several parables for the Kingdom of Heaven. Its first part (1-35, including the parables of the Sower, the Tares, the Mustard Seed and the Leaven) takes place outside when Jesus left a house and used a boat on the Sea of Galilee as a means of being able to address, in addition to his disciples, the multitudes of people gathered on the lake shore. In the second part (including the parables of the Hidden Treasure, the Pearl and Drawing in the Net), Jesus went back inside the house and addressed his disciples only, to whom were given the explanation of the purpose of parables in general and that of the Parable of the Sower itself.

Jesus said that he taught in parables because many were opposed to his direct teachings. He quoted Isaiah 6:9–10, who preached to Israel knowing that his message would go unheeded and not understood, with the result that the Israelites' sins would not be forgiven and they would be punished by God for them.

The Parable of the Sower seems to be essential for understanding all the rest of Jesus' parables, as it makes clear that what is necessary to understand Jesus is faith in him, and that Jesus will not enlighten those who refuse to believe in him. (The parable recorded in Mark comes just after a description in the previous chapter of a developing hostility toward Jesus and his ministry. The Pharisees [a member of an ancient Jewish sect, distinguished by strict observance of the traditional and written law, and commonly held to have pretensions to superior sanctity] accused him of not holding to a strict observance of the Sabbath by performing various healings. Some schools of thought found such actions permissible only if the person treated was in danger of death. Some of the Jerusalem scribes contended that Jesus derived his power from demonic sources.)

Leonard Goffiné answers the question of "why the word of God is compared to seed," writing, "Because as good fruits spring from good seed, so do good works from the word of God; and as it is impossible for any soil not sown to produce good fruits, so neither can men produce the fruits of the Spirit without the seed of the divine Word."

Roger Baxter comments on the type of soil, writing, "although this divine seed be in itself most fruitful, it requires, nevertheless, the concurrence of a good soil to produce a harvest. Hence, if it falls on the highway, it will be immediately trampled down; if among thorns, it will be choked up. Examine, then, whether your soul be a proper soil for this seed; whether it be trampled upon continually by distractions and idle thoughts; and whether it be stony and full of the cares and occupations of this life, and consequently not susceptible of the divine influence of heavenly grace."

He also writes, "Christ our Lord is both the sower and the seed itself. He intrusts the soil of our souls with His own precious body and blood. He wishes this divine grain to yield a harvest, not of temporal and corruptible, but of eternal and incorruptible, increase. For "he who soweth in the spirit shall reap life everlasting."

entropy · 发表于 2022-7-26 11:24:40

弹钢琴发表于 2022-7-26 10:59
这些“通俗版圣经”大多失去了英语语言的美感，是一种“退化”，
就像看《聊斋》，这书除了故事情节以外 ...

你既然懂，为啥又问个不停呢？

如果不是“提问”，只为“交流切磋”，那你应该与其他圣经爱好者（全世界也没多少）建个群，内部讨论。

弹钢琴 · 发表于 2022-7-27 09:05:24

entropy 发表于 2022-7-26 11:24
你既然懂，为啥又问个不停呢？

如果不是“提问”，只为“交流切磋”，那你应该与其他圣经爱好者（全世界 ...

我没懂啊，我只是针对你说的“通俗版圣经”说一下看法而已。

弹钢琴 · 发表于 2022-7-26 10:59:28

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entropy 发表于 2022-7-26 09:27
圣经看通俗版就行了， The Message: The Bible in Contemporary Language (Eugene H. Peterson)

你看不懂 ...

这些“通俗版圣经”大多失去了英语语言的美感，是一种“退化”，
就像看《聊斋》，这书除了故事情节以外，另外一半魅力蕴含在语言和作者的文笔中，
《聊斋》原著“大多数中国人”也看不懂，但懂《聊斋》的人会告诉你看白话文本味如嚼蜡。

entropy · 发表于 2022-7-26 09:27:56

圣经看通俗版就行了， The Message: The Bible in Contemporary Language (Eugene H. Peterson)

你看不懂的部分，普通美国人可能也看不懂。别浪费生命了。

He told them, "You've been given insight into God's kingdom—you know how it works. But to those who can't see it yet, everything comes in stories, creating readiness, nudging them toward receptive insight. These are people—

Whose eyes are open but don't see a thing,
Whose ears are open but don't understand a word,
Who avoid making an about-face and getting forgiven."

He continued, "Do you see how this story works? All my stories work this way."

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